Immigration Control
Hello and welcome. The purpose of "Immigration Control" is to offer an opportunity for lively discussion on the subject of immigration. Various areas on the subject will be posted and you will be able to reply, pro or con. Please, no foul language or flaming other posters. If you have an article you've written or found elsewhere you want posted please email it to: mvl270@yahoo.com Immigration Control is a production of Moe Lauzier's Issues of the Day.Monday, April 17, 2006
Something to ponder? The question of the impact of illegal aliens on Social Security. The latest story to be spun favorinf illegal aliens is they pay intot he system using phony Social Security numbers, therefore they will never be able to collect. Here's an interesting article posted on Human Events On-line. Post your comments below.
Do You Really Believe Illegal Immigrants Will Save Social Security?
by Mac JohnsonPosted Apr 17, 2006
One of the more idiotic arguments in favor of open borders is that, due to the declining birthrate of our selfish society, we need millions upon millions of impoverished foreigners to rush in to support our bleating aging baby boomers in their extended and lethargic retirements.
The only correct thing about this argument is that it recognizes that Social Security is simply a pyramid scam, always in need of increasing numbers of young new victims to tax in order to support the old (and the “disabled”) at a level far beyond their average contributions. But I got news for you, boomers. There are two big reasons why Jose and Maria aren’t going to be able to fill that role as the extra little mijos you never bothered to have, and thus cannot now leech upon.
Reason No. 1 is pretty simple: poor people don’t pay taxes. They earn tiny little incomes, which is why we call them “poor” people, and this means you’re going to have poor luck getting blood out of those economic stones. Compound this with the fact that illegal aliens tend to work jobs that pay in cash, and therefore pay even less in taxes than they should, and your fountain of youthful wealth transfers is looking a bit dry.
In fact, when you look at the structure of our modern welfare state, you will find that the average cash-earning hole-digging illiterate stowaway from the third world, or “illegal alien” uses far more in government benefits and obligations each year than he pays in taxes. This means you lose money on every one. One study indicated that the average illegal alien household costs taxpayers over $2,700 per year -- far more than any benefit they provide the Social Security program directly. But perhaps you intend to make up the loss with volume?
Maybe if we lose money on 100 million or 200 million such “productive” workers that will save Social Security? Hey, that business model worked for the “dot com” boom, for two years.
Upon legalization, these low-income tax-generating machines will then become eligible to collect Social Security payments, both when they retire -- many are just as old as you -- and should they become disabled. And as the son of a construction worker, I can tell you that manual labor disables far more workers than anything other than union membership. That’s why our society was moving away from manual labor and towards automation and labor saving technologies -- until we found a huge supply of foreign helots to re-addict us to cheap and simple labor.
And speaking of foreign, that leads me to Reason No. 2 why illegal immigration cannot save Social Security: race relations. If America’s history has taught us anything, it’s that people just LOVE the idea that they are working to support people of a different race. Black people love it. White people love it. And brown people will love it just as much. Let us pretend that we know nothing of economics (Hey, I suddenly feel like a senator) and that we do not understand that people who do not pay much in taxes (i.e. poor people) cannot save Social Security. Suppose that, through a sprinkle of leftist pixie dust, we really could structure society so that 75 million decrepit old mostly white and English-speaking geezers were being supported in part by 150 million poor mostly Hispanic and Spanish-speaking young workers. How politically stable do you think that system would be?
Given the tendency of all mankind to self-segregate and organize with their own kind, how long do you think the intergenerational intercultural transfer of receipts would go unnoticed?
When Social Security becomes a scam to help old white folks parasitize young brown folks, I wouldn’t count on that direct deposit every month, especially in the months following an election.
Now, please understand, I do not encourage such racial realities. I’d like to buy the world a Coke, after all. But the world is what the world is.
And if you think we can save Social Security by giving citizenship away to the whole world with that Coke I’d buy everyone, you have not been paying attention to history.
Additionally, would you really want to live in a society in which one race-based class lives off another, even if you were among the race on top? It’s not what I wish for America. We were happily moving away from that.
I doubt Social Security can be saved at all. But I know Social Security cannot be saved by a sea of foreign poor people being added to a welfare state democracy. Aw, pobrecito boomers. Looks like 75 is the new 67.
Copyright © 2006 HUMAN EVENTS. All Rights Reserved.
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Do You Really Believe Illegal Immigrants Will Save Social Security?
by Mac JohnsonPosted Apr 17, 2006
One of the more idiotic arguments in favor of open borders is that, due to the declining birthrate of our selfish society, we need millions upon millions of impoverished foreigners to rush in to support our bleating aging baby boomers in their extended and lethargic retirements.
The only correct thing about this argument is that it recognizes that Social Security is simply a pyramid scam, always in need of increasing numbers of young new victims to tax in order to support the old (and the “disabled”) at a level far beyond their average contributions. But I got news for you, boomers. There are two big reasons why Jose and Maria aren’t going to be able to fill that role as the extra little mijos you never bothered to have, and thus cannot now leech upon.
Reason No. 1 is pretty simple: poor people don’t pay taxes. They earn tiny little incomes, which is why we call them “poor” people, and this means you’re going to have poor luck getting blood out of those economic stones. Compound this with the fact that illegal aliens tend to work jobs that pay in cash, and therefore pay even less in taxes than they should, and your fountain of youthful wealth transfers is looking a bit dry.
In fact, when you look at the structure of our modern welfare state, you will find that the average cash-earning hole-digging illiterate stowaway from the third world, or “illegal alien” uses far more in government benefits and obligations each year than he pays in taxes. This means you lose money on every one. One study indicated that the average illegal alien household costs taxpayers over $2,700 per year -- far more than any benefit they provide the Social Security program directly. But perhaps you intend to make up the loss with volume?
Maybe if we lose money on 100 million or 200 million such “productive” workers that will save Social Security? Hey, that business model worked for the “dot com” boom, for two years.
Upon legalization, these low-income tax-generating machines will then become eligible to collect Social Security payments, both when they retire -- many are just as old as you -- and should they become disabled. And as the son of a construction worker, I can tell you that manual labor disables far more workers than anything other than union membership. That’s why our society was moving away from manual labor and towards automation and labor saving technologies -- until we found a huge supply of foreign helots to re-addict us to cheap and simple labor.
And speaking of foreign, that leads me to Reason No. 2 why illegal immigration cannot save Social Security: race relations. If America’s history has taught us anything, it’s that people just LOVE the idea that they are working to support people of a different race. Black people love it. White people love it. And brown people will love it just as much. Let us pretend that we know nothing of economics (Hey, I suddenly feel like a senator) and that we do not understand that people who do not pay much in taxes (i.e. poor people) cannot save Social Security. Suppose that, through a sprinkle of leftist pixie dust, we really could structure society so that 75 million decrepit old mostly white and English-speaking geezers were being supported in part by 150 million poor mostly Hispanic and Spanish-speaking young workers. How politically stable do you think that system would be?
Given the tendency of all mankind to self-segregate and organize with their own kind, how long do you think the intergenerational intercultural transfer of receipts would go unnoticed?
When Social Security becomes a scam to help old white folks parasitize young brown folks, I wouldn’t count on that direct deposit every month, especially in the months following an election.
Now, please understand, I do not encourage such racial realities. I’d like to buy the world a Coke, after all. But the world is what the world is.
And if you think we can save Social Security by giving citizenship away to the whole world with that Coke I’d buy everyone, you have not been paying attention to history.
Additionally, would you really want to live in a society in which one race-based class lives off another, even if you were among the race on top? It’s not what I wish for America. We were happily moving away from that.
I doubt Social Security can be saved at all. But I know Social Security cannot be saved by a sea of foreign poor people being added to a welfare state democracy. Aw, pobrecito boomers. Looks like 75 is the new 67.
Copyright © 2006 HUMAN EVENTS. All Rights Reserved.
Please leave your comments by clicking on the comment line below.
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